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Post by turbothink on Jan 7, 2008 1:27:54 GMT -5
Did you live with Stern, Anna and Daniel? Please tell us more. Of course not. I have said that I don't know anyone in this case, but, Anna kept Howard with her for many years, and I think she really did love him. Abused women stay with the men who abuse them all the time. Anna had to stay with Howard, he was her pimp and drug pusher. She thought she was too old to leave, and too dumb to survive. Don't forget she only had an 8th grade education and could not read. She for all purposes was illiterate.
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Post by turbothink on Jan 7, 2008 1:35:12 GMT -5
But not his off shore accounts. They are bursting at the seams. ;D I hope you know Lin Wood is taking down names and he will find out who you all are. Howard can always use some pocket change. ;D Howard can bite my a**!!!!
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Post by turbothink on Jan 7, 2008 1:39:18 GMT -5
If that's true, she's dead so that must mean his life is over. ;D That was thoughtlessly cruel! He'll survive this just fine....he hasn't done anything to be ashamed of or ridiculed for! When a couple of these lawsuits go sour, and the Feds start closing in he will commit suicide.
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Post by turbothink on Jan 7, 2008 1:43:59 GMT -5
Well, it looks like I am on the wrong side here, but I will just go ahead and post anyway. I think Howard should be left alone. He is a very good man, with a wonderful supportive family. He was very much in love with Anna and treated Daniel like a son. He would have been a very good father to DL also. He always just did what made Anna happy. He seems very unstable to me. He is a control freak with a sadistic personality. People like that commit suicide when it gets close to them. When the feds start closing in with some indictments, he will go down. All the time he has devoted and the money he has stashed will be for nothing. That will destroy his psyche and he will either run or commit suicide. I am betting on suicide because there is no where in the world the U.S. Feds can't get him.
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Post by nightowl on Jan 7, 2008 2:35:07 GMT -5
That was thoughtlessly cruel! He'll survive this just fine....he hasn't done anything to be ashamed of or ridiculed for! When a couple of these lawsuits go sour, and the Feds start closing in he will commit suicide. I don't think so, turbo. Howard, being the sociopath that he is, would never do that, because, then in his mind, that would be admitting his guilt in the deaths of Daniel, & Anna. Sociopaths will never admit when they are wrong. Howard is no exception. I believe Howard will just go searching for another easy target like Anna. He's probably already done his research on that too. IMO ;D
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Post by Squidge on Jan 7, 2008 11:31:28 GMT -5
What's cruel is Daniel and Anna lying in their graves. As for stern, he can blow off the face of the planet for all I care. ;D And Howard had nothing to do with either of those deaths. He loved them. But they didn't love him back because Dan told his friends in California he didn't like Howard and that Howard shut him out of his mother's life and sure enough just as Dan tried to be with her he was slain.
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Post by Squidge on Jan 7, 2008 11:36:00 GMT -5
Anna's * medical problems* were a figment of her imagination. She was as healthy as as a horse. Anyone who could indulge in sex as often and as much as she did, IMO didn't have any medical problems. She just liked the ambience of having no cares in the world. How else could she stand to see Howie's face lurking every day in her life? What a way to wake up to, that is, whenever she decided to wake. Seems to me, Anna indulged herself first, and everyone else, including Daniel came last. Do you have a link to her medical past? Didn't Perper say her bottom was infected with dirty needles? Didn't she have seizures from trying to get off heroin and so she took methadone for it? She said her back hurt from trying to hold up her double boobs she had implanted. They made her look like a freak and hurt her a lot but that's what she thought was pretty.
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Post by Mrs D on Jan 7, 2008 13:52:43 GMT -5
If you'd read the autopsy report you'd know that ANS didn't have any serious medical problems. She complained of chronic back pain. When you choose to tote around a couple watermelons on your chest, back pain follows. But that was her CHOICE. She chose obscenely huge boobs, therefore, she was responsible for the aches and pains that came with them. Since personal responsibilty never entered her brain, I'm sure she never considered that she was the cause of her own pain.
The autopsy report did indicate the early stages of liver disease, though. Years and years of alcohol and drug use was catching up with her. If she'd lived and continued that lifestyle, it wouldn't have been long before she had cirrhosis. But, we all know that there's no way it would have been her fault! It would have been made public that she'd contracted some mysterious disease while on her Trimspa, Baby! tour.
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Post by LindyLue on Jan 7, 2008 14:12:03 GMT -5
If you'd read the autopsy report you'd know that ANS didn't have any serious medical problems. She complained of chronic back pain. When you choose to tote around a couple watermelons on your chest, back pain follows. But that was her CHOICE. She chose obscenely huge boobs, therefore, she was responsible for the aches and pains that came with them. Since personal responsibilty never entered her brain, I'm sure she never considered that she was the cause of her own pain. The autopsy report did indicate the early stages of liver disease, though. Years and years of alcohol and drug use was catching up with her. If she'd lived and continued that lifestyle, it wouldn't have been long before she had cirrhosis. But, we all know that there's no way it would have been her fault! It would have been made public that she'd contracted some mysterious disease while on her Trimspa, Baby! tour. Somehow, that too, would have been Virgie's fault...caused from all her abuse to ans when she was young.....and most likely started because of Virgie kicking her out of the house!
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Post by Mrs D on Jan 7, 2008 15:00:50 GMT -5
Somehow, that too, would have been Virgie's fault...caused from all her abuse to ans when she was young.....and most likely started because of Virgie kicking her out of the house! You bet, Lindy. Doncha know that it's mandatory to get ginormous implants if your mother sends you away from the unsavory crowd you're hanging with?
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Post by LindyLue on Jan 7, 2008 15:36:28 GMT -5
Somehow, that too, would have been Virgie's fault...caused from all her abuse to ans when she was young.....and most likely started because of Virgie kicking her out of the house! You bet, Lindy. Doncha know that it's mandatory to get ginormous implants if your mother sends you away from the unsavory crowd you're hanging with? Absolutely, cause ya just gotta be 'hanging' somewhere!
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Post by gsdsrule on Jan 7, 2008 20:24:10 GMT -5
omg...LMAO....I prefer my visual below if I gotta grow hair on my hands. Are you sure? *deleted image - see TOS*aaarrggghhh That was very painful. Whatcha got in your duffle bag to make it better? ;D
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Post by gsdsrule on Jan 7, 2008 20:32:05 GMT -5
Did you live with Stern, Anna and Daniel? Please tell us more. Of course not. I have said that I don't know anyone in this case, but, Anna kept Howard with her for many years, and I think she really did love him. What addict doesn't keep a toady yes man willing to score drugs for her around? I recall Prince von Ahole calling Stern her pimp, and I think that might just be correct.
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Post by dancingdiva on Jan 7, 2008 20:52:24 GMT -5
Are you sure? aaarrggghhh That was very painful. Whatcha got in your duffle bag to make it better? ;D ROTFLMAO....scared the hell out of me!
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Post by Casual Observer on Jan 7, 2008 23:38:23 GMT -5
Casual Observer, where's that puke smiley when it's needed??!?!?! I never did like the barfing smilies. And I don't employ a maid so clean up detail like everything else in here is on me. There is a smilie regarding bodily functions that is much more tidy if that helps. ---> = Casual Observer =
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