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Post by LindyLue on Jan 7, 2008 5:36:00 GMT -5
I am beginning to believe all the players around Anna for the last few years have been orchestrated by Howard. I see and smell a set up here which started a LONG time ago. Hey turbo! I most definately see the same things. A VERY long time ago!
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Post by Squidge on Jan 7, 2008 11:42:55 GMT -5
I am beginning to believe all the players around Anna for the last few years have been orchestrated by Howard. I see and smell a set up here which started a LONG time ago. Hey turbo! I most definately see the same things. A VERY long time ago! Like she was whisked out of the country to make it easier . Then down to a place where regular United States law wasn't used. I can see now why Howard tried to hold on to the baby.
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Post by Springflower on Jan 7, 2008 13:26:01 GMT -5
lindylue, you may be right but my goodness how could one person have that much power over others? It's all a mystery to me. I don't know how, Spring, but it happens...I've seen it too many times in life and it made a believer out of me. hks is exactly the kind of personality that turns out to be 'the one' capable. They fool so many into believing they are just to shy, quiet, kind, etc etc, but in the end, they turn out to be the most dangerous. They have NO life. They quietly plot against others and how to make themselves come out on top, in life...usually for nothing but money and some sort of twisted power, they slowly make sure they 'meet' the 'right' people who can and will help them in their quest in their sick life.....once all the right things are set...quietly they strike....and lots of people believe there is NO WAY this quiet, shy, loving..HA!...person could have EVER done such a sick thing. How, I don't know...but I do believe and will always believe that yes, hks, is capable of ALL of this and is the 'man at the top'...or was! What he doesn't 'get' is that he was never big or smart enough to really pull this off when it got to the END of his plan...His world is crumbling on him and he's in quite a shock and frenzy trying to save his behind. Accuse Accuse Accuse...EVERYONE else....everyone else is to blame for HIS problems....He and King Wood.....WHO else would this low-life end up with to twist and squirm his way OUT of what HE created?! Good pair....then there's LB, Rale, Munroe, etc......Quite a slimy group but a PERFECT match for 'THE hks'...... IMO The more I think on this, the more I am seeing your reasoning. I have to remember Charles Manson, Jim Jones and David Koresh, just to name a few in recent times. They all managed to control their followers and persuade them to do their bidding. Not sure how, but they sure did manage it. So, I stand corrected.
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Post by LindyLue on Jan 7, 2008 14:08:21 GMT -5
I don't know how, Spring, but it happens...I've seen it too many times in life and it made a believer out of me. hks is exactly the kind of personality that turns out to be 'the one' capable. They fool so many into believing they are just to shy, quiet, kind, etc etc, but in the end, they turn out to be the most dangerous. They have NO life. They quietly plot against others and how to make themselves come out on top, in life...usually for nothing but money and some sort of twisted power, they slowly make sure they 'meet' the 'right' people who can and will help them in their quest in their sick life.....once all the right things are set...quietly they strike....and lots of people believe there is NO WAY this quiet, shy, loving..HA!...person could have EVER done such a sick thing. How, I don't know...but I do believe and will always believe that yes, hks, is capable of ALL of this and is the 'man at the top'...or was! What he doesn't 'get' is that he was never big or smart enough to really pull this off when it got to the END of his plan...His world is crumbling on him and he's in quite a shock and frenzy trying to save his behind. Accuse Accuse Accuse...EVERYONE else....everyone else is to blame for HIS problems....He and King Wood.....WHO else would this low-life end up with to twist and squirm his way OUT of what HE created?! Good pair....then there's LB, Rale, Munroe, etc......Quite a slimy group but a PERFECT match for 'THE hks'...... IMO The more I think on this, the more I am seeing your reasoning. I have to remember Charles Manson, Jim Jones and David Koresh, just to name a few in recent times. They all managed to control their followers and persuade them to do their bidding. Not sure how, but they sure did manage it. So, I stand corrected. No Spring, not corrected.....Just human like the rest of US...and always open and willing to let your thinking take you down a different path that maybe you hadn't thought of before and see a different thought.....AND be able to put that thought together with the ones you already have and know..Not to mention facts..LOL....That's what makes us so much different than some others we all know.
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Post by nightowl on Jan 7, 2008 18:16:39 GMT -5
I suppose you think Howard is also "innocent" of drugging a pregnant woman? Daniel did not travel all the way to the Bahamas to visit his Mother, & new baby sister to just suddenly decide to overdose! Dream on!
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Post by LindyLue on Jan 7, 2008 18:20:20 GMT -5
My name isn't Louise and I'm not out anywhere..I'm right here and you can keep your DUH...you're probably going to need it again.
Have yourself a nice day there, clementine!
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Post by gsdsrule on Jan 10, 2008 18:46:11 GMT -5
Kapoor not testifying, I can understand but I don't understand Martino refusing. What does he have to lose, or what trouble would he be in? Personally I'd like to know more about what Daniel's mood was when he got on that plane. Hmm, off the top of my head, I think Martino is a lot tighter with HS than we realized. Remeber HS called him shortly after Anna died, although it was a brief call. IIRC, Martino kept in touch with HS during Daniel's hospitalization, so there appears to be some friendship there. I don't think it was just an Anna connection. If Martino was to appear, he just maybe reluctant to say anything derogatory towards his buddy. I agree that Martino was NOT Daniels friend. I think Stern had Martino watch him and how about that valium "overdose" we keep hearing about. Who gave Danny valium before his flight? What the hell was Martino doing?
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Post by rachelslaw on Jan 11, 2008 9:09:31 GMT -5
I think you're right, GSDSRULE! Poor Daniel didn't have a snowball's chance in Hell with someone like Howard, & his thugs in Anna's life. Karma will catch up to Howard, & when it does, it will be in a spectacular way. That's my feeling, & it couldn't happen to a more deserving SOB! Hello, everyone. I just can't see Martino in this with Howard, of all people. Ray was buddies with Anna....very good buddies, IMO. I think that's why he took Daniel in; perhaps Anna wanted to play hardnosed with him without actually being hardnosed. I guess if Martino, who has no reason to stay away on the 28th doesn't show, I might re-evaluate the situation. We couldn't see Larry "in" with Howard either when the paternity matter started, but look where we are now? It would seem to me that Stern has something on everyone that was around Anna. Stern is quiet, sneeky, and has nothing to do but pay attention to those that were part of Anna's life. Stern certainly has no money, so bribes (unless he uses Anna's money) are out of the question. As to Martino, I'm not sure what the problem is with him, but there is obviously something holding him back.
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Post by Mrs D on Jan 11, 2008 11:44:21 GMT -5
I agree 100% that HKS has something on EVERYONE that was close to ANS. He didn't tote that video camera around just for fun. I've always believed that's how Dr E was drafted into becoming their personal Dr Feelgood. She'd already been reprimanded and fired from her job. Why risk her livelihood even further by moving to the Bahamas and writing scripts like there was no tomorrow?
Daniel was the one person that HKS had nothing on. He loved his mother. He wasn't one of the cling-ons that was there just for the notoriety of hanging around with her. As horrid as his childhood was, there was no breaking the bond between mother and son. He wanted a better life for her and that would have meant getting rid of all the parasites that surrounded her. I'll always believe that Daniel had the hopes of someday having a healthy mother, a little sister and a fairly normal family.
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Post by Springflower on Jan 11, 2008 14:04:30 GMT -5
I agree 100% that HKS has something on EVERYONE that was close to ANS. He didn't tote that video camera around just for fun. I've always believed that's how Dr E was drafted into becoming their personal Dr Feelgood. She'd already been reprimanded and fired from her job. Why risk her livelihood even further by moving to the Bahamas and writing scripts like there was no tomorrow? Daniel was the one person that HKS had nothing on. He loved his mother. He wasn't one of the cling-ons that was there just for the notoriety of hanging around with her. As horrid as his childhood was, there was no breaking the bond between mother and son. He wanted a better life for her and that would have meant getting rid of all the parasites that surrounded her. I'll always believe that Daniel had the hopes of someday having a healthy mother, a little sister and a fairly normal family. But no doubt Daniel had plenty on HIM. I'm sure he couldn't risk all of it coming out.
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Post by turbothink on Jan 13, 2008 21:52:53 GMT -5
I agree 100% that HKS has something on EVERYONE that was close to ANS. He didn't tote that video camera around just for fun. I've always believed that's how Dr E was drafted into becoming their personal Dr Feelgood. She'd already been reprimanded and fired from her job. Why risk her livelihood even further by moving to the Bahamas and writing scripts like there was no tomorrow? Daniel was the one person that HKS had nothing on. He loved his mother. He wasn't one of the cling-ons that was there just for the notoriety of hanging around with her. As horrid as his childhood was, there was no breaking the bond between mother and son. He wanted a better life for her and that would have meant getting rid of all the parasites that surrounded her. I'll always believe that Daniel had the hopes of someday having a healthy mother, a little sister and a fairly normal family. He said that she talked about dying young and that she wanted to be buried in the same place at Marilyn Monroe, but cost became an issue to share the same cemetery in California. And then Stern testified that when her son Daniel died a few days after the birth of her daughter, Stern said, 'In a lot of ways, she died when he died.' But some of the key testimony here has to do with where she wanted to be buried. And for that, we will show you a burial plot in the Bahamas because Stern said that back in July, he signed contracts on behalf of Anna Nicole Smith for a double burial plot. And to that end, he said, 'I am here' -- he quoted Anna Nicole Smith as saying, 'I'm here, and I want my son to be buried here. This is my home.' transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...20/cnr.04.html In JULY? Daniel was not even dead then. Can this be used in the Inquest? That reaks of premeditation for him to be planning to BURY her SON there when he had no idea that her son would not outlive them
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Post by nightowl on Jan 13, 2008 22:04:41 GMT -5
That's good thinking, turbo! You're absolutely right. It does reek of premeditation. I think Howard had this planned for a long time. I can't believe anyone's dumb enough to believe that Howard's a good guy! They must either be insane, have severe brain damage or they're just as evil as Howard!
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Post by nightowl on Jan 13, 2008 22:11:29 GMT -5
I agree 100% that HKS has something on EVERYONE that was close to ANS. He didn't tote that video camera around just for fun. I've always believed that's how Dr E was drafted into becoming their personal Dr Feelgood. She'd already been reprimanded and fired from her job. Why risk her livelihood even further by moving to the Bahamas and writing scripts like there was no tomorrow? Daniel was the one person that HKS had nothing on. He loved his mother. He wasn't one of the cling-ons that was there just for the notoriety of hanging around with her. As horrid as his childhood was, there was no breaking the bond between mother and son. He wanted a better life for her and that would have meant getting rid of all the parasites that surrounded her. I'll always believe that Daniel had the hopes of someday having a healthy mother, a little sister and a fairly normal family. Great post, Mrs D! It made me so sad to think that this is exactly what Daniel wanted, but, unfortunately his life was taken from him. He never realized his dream! That really breaks my heart even though I didn't know Daniel. I still feel a tremendous sorrow for him, & the fact that he never had the chance to live his life.
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Post by oops on Jan 30, 2008 8:39:04 GMT -5
As many of you know the Inquest began again yesterday and here is a snip from yesterday's events. on Ford Shelly's testimony................ www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=1560530th January Inquest Resumes Into Death of Anna Nicole Smith’s Son[/color] By TOSHEENA ROBINSON-BLAIR A Coroner’s Court on Tuesday heard how pregnant U.S. reality T.V. star Anna Nicole Smith traveled with a satchel of pre scri ption drugs – including methadone – a narcotic that two toxicologists’ reports indicated caused her son’s death in September 2006. A Coroner’s Court on Tuesday heard how pregnant U.S. reality T.V. star Anna Nicole Smith traveled with a satchel of pre scri ption drugs – including methadone – a narcotic that two toxicologists’ reports indicated caused her son’s death in September 2006. South Carolina real estate developer, Ford Shelley, told the court that when he and his wife unpacked Ms. Smith’s belongings when she came for a visit in May 2006, he saw a pharmaceutically labeled bottle of methadone belonging to the former Playboy Playmate. He testified that she had the drug in both the tablet and liquid form and that Ms. Smith traveled with a Coach duffle bag filled with her “medication.” Methadone is used to wean heroine addicts from their addiction. It is also used as a pain killer. I never saw Anna personally take any of the medication. She told us what she was taking. I was concerned because of her pregnancy,” Mr. Shelley told the court Tuesday. He said the pre scri ption drugs were made out to more than three different aliases that Ms. Smith used. Mr. Shelley and his father-in-law, G. Ben Thompson, have been involved in legal wrangling with the Anna Nicole Smith estate over ownership of the Eastern Road Horizon home where the former starlet stayed while she resided here. The litigation began before Ms. Smith died almost a year ago. Mr. Shelley also told the court about witnessing Ms. Smith’s long-term companion, Howard K. Stern, find two pills in the jeans of her son (Daniel Smith) shortly after he died. “He walked into the bathroom and flushed the two pills. I asked Howard what he had done and Howard said he ‘took care of a problem’,” Mr. Shelley recalled. He said as far as he knew Daniel was not suicidal. The real estate developer testified that Ms. Smith had stayed at his home in Myrtle Beach, the Florida Keys and in The Bahamas to get away from the media. He said Ms. Smith had “a high-risk pregnancy” and did not want to have to deal with her baby’s father, Larry Birkhead. Mr. Shelley told the court that Daniel was “a brilliant” and “awesome” kid, who loved his mother, but couldn’t handle her fame. He remembered Daniel as “being afraid of his own shadow” and said he would never kill himself. Under cross-examination, Mr. Stern’s attorney Wayne Munroe painted Daniel as a young man who suffered from serious depression and had recently broken up with his girlfriend. Mr. Shelley’s testimony regarding the likelihood of Daniel’s death being a suicide conflicted with the evidence given by Dr. Lee Hern of the Medical Examiner’s Office in Miami Dade County. Dr. Hern told the court that, “clearly the methadone was the key in understanding this death.” “But for the methadone he would not have died.” Asked by Director of Public Prosecutions, Bernard Turner, whether he thought the drug consumption was deliberate or unintentional, in his expert opinion, Dr. Hern said there was “a high degree of probability” that it was “an intentional ingestion.” Substantiating his claim he pointed to the large amount ingested over a short period of time.
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Post by nightowl on Jan 30, 2008 14:43:53 GMT -5
Hi, oops! ;D Thanks for providing us with that article. I will never, even for one minute, believe that Daniel killed himself! Howard wants everyone to believe that, but, it's not going to happen! It is because of him that Daniel's Inquest has been delayed for so long! Any "innocent" person would have wanted the Inquest over long ago!
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